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tenshi_strife · Apr 26, 2007, 10:42 PM // 22:42

now that we have hard mode and the amount of enemies vanquished box this gives me an idea, so many people are going for explorer titles but dont know if they compleatly explored an area. so why dont you put a box like the vanquisher box saying the % of the current aera your in explored.

now some people who have grandmaster will say this is cheating them but its not, you still have to find all those small little nooks and crannies you are missing but at least you wont spend 12 hours wall walking an aera you already 100% explored. this would still make the title worth something but it would also make it where you dont have to spend years to get everthing.

please post your thoughts but please keep out "i did it so you have to suffer too" as much as possible lol

CyberMesh0 · Apr 26, 2007, 11:00 PM // 23:00

All you need to get around spending that time walking on walls is using the tabbing back and forth between the game and a map technique. I like the idea but I don't really see it as necessary.

Sniper22 · Apr 26, 2007, 11:01 PM // 23:01

/signed

i have 95.5% for tyria, cant find the last 4.5%

bloody streak · Apr 27, 2007, 12:05 AM // 00:05

/signed.....

MithranArkanere · Apr 27, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09

I have all areas... and... I know that there are aras you can't explore 100% no matter how hard you try.

This would not really help, since you won't really know if the area is fully explored.

What I would do is to give a little more 'advantage' to the Canthan and Tyrian titles.

The Elonain can be get without exploring half of Shajala (I alrady have it half unexplored). But you need almost everything and even Missions, Challenges and competitive mission in Cantha and Tyria.

Exterminate all · Apr 27, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

.Signed sounds like a good idea it will really help you, but it should only happen after you vanquish the area to make it harder eh?

OhCrapLions · Apr 27, 2007, 01:12 AM // 01:12

I suppose this is cheating... but then again it does save a lot of time and frustration. And it isnt telling you exactly what you missed where, just that you missed in this general area.

/signed

Synles Chyld · Apr 27, 2007, 03:05 AM // 03:05

i complety agree this would be so much better an it would still be frikken hard lol cuzz u still wouldnt know where u was missin it at and/or what other places on ur map u havnt gott yet eaither so ya im all for it hook us up anet

explodemyheart · Apr 27, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06

/notsigned

Cartographer is really not a hard title to earn. Time consuming, but certainly not hard. It's quite easy with the help of the cartographer guide threads in the respective continent's Explorer Leagues.

If you want the title, work for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper22

i have 95.5% for tyria, cant find the last 4.5%

4.5% is actually still quite a bit left. Unless you've got lots and lots of areas with very very very little to uncover, go get a map of 100% uncovered Tyria and compare as it will be easy to tell what you're missing. And if you can't, ask the other people around there if they can.

Really, they're not hard titles and they're actually pretty forgiving titles. Using comparison maps with Photoshop, I was able to get 100% of Elona with several small areas left that I could have uncovered and 100% of Tyria with having decent portions of Frost Gate, Sanctum Cay and Great Northern Wall still unexplored.

Echuu Ishtar · Apr 27, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

I was surprised this wasn't included with the introduction of the title.

/signed

Tylos Angelheart · Apr 27, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22

Yeah i was just thinking the same thing this morning how a amount explored number should appear on your map. I have about 94% of Tyira 93& of cantha and 97%of Elona... an edition of this would make the last specks very easy to find ... some may say too easy and might ruin the effect of the explorer title. However the last few specks are always a pain to find. Maybe this should only be visible when 100% of the portal area has been explored, that way the one with no number would need exploring this would take the easiness of it down a bit as you wouldnt be able to say hey i got 50% i need more youd just be able to see that you need more if it doesnt say 100%. Kind of like the Vanquisher title in that respect.

Deleet · Apr 27, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55

/signed, even though I never think I will bother with exploring titles again, already have 92% on a warrior and it is very boring. But for the people who want this title. Go for it.

freekedoutfish · Apr 27, 2007, 08:54 AM // 08:54

MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT 10 TIMES

Use the search option.

And I've said this about 10 times before aswell, and I know not everyone agrees. Generally the people who are too lazey to explore.

We dont need % marks on seperate areas.

Exploration at 100% is possible with time and effort and dedication. If you havent got the time to explore, then DONT explore.

The people who complain about exploration and ask for seperate % marks, are the people who start exploring because their under the impression its easy.

The think its easy because of the stigmata around exploration. Everyone says "ah... grandmaster is easy to get", then they start exploring and soon realise its not.

Then they winge and complain that they cant be bothered to hug walls, and analyse maps and use the countless other methods that exist to aid exploration.

If you dont want to spend hours exploring, then DONT explore. It takes alot of time, and it can get frustrating and it can wind you up. If you cant handle that, then dont start.

/not signed at % marks for areas.

Just do it the same way that all the 1000s of other grandmasters and legendary cartogs have done it.

And yes, adding % is cheating and it is unfair to existing grandmasters. Placing a % on a set area section, gives a HUGE advantage to the player and its a kick in the teath for existing grandmasters.

But because you all keep complaining about it, you know fine well Anet will cave in and add it anyway. And then exploration will be easy. Then you will get laughed at for having grandmaster.

It will completely remove any diginity the title has.

darknight2169 · Apr 27, 2007, 09:05 AM // 09:05

would help, actually, would really help
/signed

Cold · Apr 27, 2007, 11:10 AM // 11:10

/signed
I have Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer title but I was ready to kill someone when I stuck on 99.9%. It turns out you have to be banished by Shiro to get that last 0.1%

If they do that percentage per area I'll go ahead and explore Tyria and Elona... in a hard mode

But otherwise it's just bouring routine.

Zenocided · Apr 27, 2007, 12:14 PM // 12:14

/signed

This would be a nice feature. Not cheating, but at least it gives the general impression of where you are missing chunks.

To those that say, wtf, why don't you look at photos, windowed comparision, hunt for threads and other what nots. All these things show that we really need a simple effective system like a percentage box. It SOLVES the problem of people constants asking repetitive questions unless they genuinely have a problem that experts need step in and give advice.

being stuck at 99.9 is like being in hell on Earth!

Dougal Kronik · Apr 27, 2007, 02:52 PM // 14:52

/not signed

Been mentioned before and it's still a useless idea.

Just edge the zones, don't use any speed buffs (except for Dunes and Northern Wall - rfor me anyway), and go on an angle to all walls so you find those secret niches. And you pretty much have to kill everything. So you could do this while getting Vanquisher to work on two titles at the same time.

GMC on Tyria was the only time I ever used a difference map. Cantha and Elona almost give you the title through straight game play.

Also check out the thread in the Tyrian Explorer's League for map analysis and pointers.

Next, those can't get the title will be asking for a contrast between unfoggable areas and permanently fogged areas. Invest some time and effort in this title. Redo and clear every zone in the game if you have to.

tenshi_strife · Apr 28, 2007, 02:20 PM // 14:20

ok first of all people cheat by useing images anyway, this also wont be a huge change cause all it does is take away useless time, running in an area you already explored. this wont show on the large map so you stipp have to go to every area to do this.

grandmaster will still be a pain in the ass but this will stop useless time. and in the end that is Anets goal. Anet wants GW to be a game that eliminates too much grinding and make the overall play experience much more fun and i do believe this will do jsut that.

really the only opjections i see now are "i did it now you have to too".

freekedoutfish · May 01, 2007, 11:06 AM // 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenshi_strife

ok first of all people cheat by useing images anyway, this also wont be a huge change cause all it does is take away useless time, running in an area you already explored. this wont show on the large map so you stipp have to go to every area to do this.

grandmaster will still be a pain in the ass but this will stop useless time. and in the end that is Anets goal. Anet wants GW to be a game that eliminates too much grinding and make the overall play experience much more fun and i do believe this will do jsut that.

really the only opjections i see now are "i did it now you have to too".

Looking at images isnt cheating. Its using your intelligence. If you can get your hands on a map to compare and you dont, then your stupid.

Adding %s to the map is cheating, because its completely unfair to the 10000s of players who already have 100% on the maps.

Players who DID compare maps, and did use their heads.

And again, very simple...

...IT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT %!!! Stop asking for them, and just work at it. Alot of those who ask for this, dont even care about exploring. You just want another 3 maxed titles, and you want them as easily and fast as you can.

VinnyRidira · May 01, 2007, 12:52 PM // 12:52

/signed

Anything to irritate the grinders who gainsay everything as not fair.